3-4} Interview
ICE BREAKERS
• Complete the following web diagram
In what way can
I change myself
for the better
I want to
control my
anger
• Given below are the prerequisites of an interview. Fill up the boxes with
suitable actions to be undertaken with reference to the given points.
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of an
interview
Areas to be
covered
Time
management
Make your
interview
interesting
Body
language
Interview
Student: The world is full of callous people(संवेदनाहीन) , indifferent people (उदासीन) , cruel people,
and how can you change those people?
Krishnamurti: The world is full of callous people, indifferent people, cruel
people, and how can you change those people? Is that it? Why do you bother
about changing others? Change yourself. Otherwise as you grow up you will also
become callous. You will also become indifferent. You will also become cruel.
The past generation is vanishing, it is going and you are coming, and if you
also prove callous, indifferent, cruel, you will also build the same society. What
matters is that you change; that you are not callous; that you are not indifferent.
When you say all this is the business of the older generation, have you seen
them, have you watched them, have you felt for them? If you have, you will do
something. Change yourself and test it by action. Such action is one of the most
extraordinary things. But we want to change everybody except ourselves, which
means, really, we do not want to change, we want others to change and so we
remain callous, indifferent, cruel, hoping the environment will change so that we
can continue in our own way. You understand what I am talking about?
Student: You ask us to change, what do we change into?
Krishnamurti: You ask us to change, what is it we change into? You cannot
change into a monkey, probably you would like to, but you cannot. Now when
you say, “I want to change into something”—listen to this carefully—if you say
to yourself, “I must change, I must change myself into something”, the “into
something” is a pattern which you have created, haven’t you? Do you see that?
Look, you are violent or greedy and you want to change yourself into a person
who is not greedy? Not wanting to be greedy is another form of greed, isn’t it?
Do you see that? But if you say, “I am greedy, I will find out what it means,
why I am greedy, what is involved in it”, then, when you understand greed, you
will be free of greed. Do you understand what I am talking about?
Let me explain. I am greedy and I struggle, fight, make tremendous efforts
not to be greedy. I have already an idea, a picture, an image of what it means
not to be greedy. So I am conforming to an ideal which I think is non-greed.
You understand? Whereas if I look at my greed, if I understand why I am greedy,
the nature of my greed, the structure of greed, then, when I begin to understand
all that, I am free of greed. Therefore, freedom from greed is something entirely
different from trying to become non-greedy. Do you see the difference? Freedom
from greed is something which is entirely different from saying, “I must be a
great man so I must be non-greedy”. Have you understood?
I was thinking last night, that I have been to this valley, off and on, for
about forty years. People have come and gone. Trees have died and new trees
have grown. Different children have come, passed through this school, have
become engineers, housewives and disappeared altogether into the masses. I meet
them occasionally, at an airport or at a meeting, very ordinary people. And if
you are not very careful, you are also going to end up that way.
Student: What do you mean by ordinary?
Krishnamurti: To be like the rest of men, with their worries, with their
corruption, violence, brutality (निर्दयी), indifference, callousness. To want a job, to want
to hold on to a job, whether you are efficient or not, to die in the job. That is
what is called ordinary—to have nothing new, nothing fresh, no joy in life, never
to be curious, intense,(मोठा) passionate, (भावपूर्ण) never to find out, but merely to conform. That
is what I mean by ordinary. It is called being bourgeois. It is a mechanical way
of living, a routine, a boredom.(कंटाळवाणा)
Student: How can we get rid of being ordinary?
Krishnamurti: How can you get rid of being ordinary? Do not be ordinary. (सामान्य
You cannot get rid of it. Just do not be it.
Student: How, sir?
Krishnamurti: There is no “how”. You see that is one of the most destructive
questions: “Tell me how”. Man has always been saying, throughout the world,
“Tell me how”. If you see a snake, a poisonous cobra, you do not say, “Please
tell me how to run away from it”. You run away from it. So in the same way,
if you see that you are ordinary, run, leave it, not tomorrow, but instantly.
Since you will not ask any more questions, I am going to propose something.
You know people talk a great deal about meditation (ध्यान). Don’t they?
Student: They do.
Krishnamurti: You know nothing about it. I am glad. Because you know
nothing about it, you can learn about it. It is like not knowing French or Latin
or Italian. Because you do not know, you can learn, you can learn as though
for the first time. Those people who already know what meditation is, they have
to unlearn and then learn. You see the difference? Since you do not know what
meditation is, let us learn about it. To learn about meditation, you have to see
how your mind is working. You have to watch, as you watch a lizard going by,
walking across the wall. You see all its four feet, how it sticks to the wall, and
as you watch, you see all the movements. In the same way, watch your thinking.
Do not correct it. Do not suppress it. Do not say, “All this is too difficult”. Just
watch, now, this morning.
First of all sit absolutely still. Sit comfortably, cross your legs, sit absolutely
still, close your eyes, and see if you can keep your eyes from moving. You
understand? Your eyeballs are apt to move, keep them completely quiet, for fun.
Then, as you sit very quietly, find out what your thought is doing. Watch it as
you watched the lizard.सरडा ) Watch thought, the way it runs, one thought after another .
So you begin to learn, to observe.
Are you watching your thoughts—how one thought pursues another thought,
thought saying, “This is a good thought, this is a bad thought”? When you go
to bed at night, and when you walk, watch your thought. Just watch thought, do
not correct it, and then you will learn the beginning of meditation. Now sit very
quietly. Shut your eyes and see that the eyeballs (डोळे ) do not move at all. Then watch
your thoughts so that you learn. Once you begin to learn there is no end to
learning.
BRAINSTORMING
(A1) (i) Complete the following statements with the help of the text
To learn about meditation, you have to see Watch your thinking. Do not
Do not
Begin to learn Just watch thought.
Do not
(ii) Identify the incorrect statements from the following and correct them.
(a) One wants others to change.
(b) One can get rid of being ordinary.
(c) Understanding the nature of greed does not ensure freedom from greed.
(d) Learning is a finite process.
(A2) (i) Is an educated person the same as a degree holder?
Make a list of the behaviours in educated people that you find unacceptable:
(a) (b)
(c) (d)(ii) Suggest what you would do in the following situations:
(a) Your very close friend has been using a fake social media account to play
pranks on others and is not ready to stop in spite of several attempts by
you.
(b) You are going through a crisis that is making you short tempered and
impatient, due to which you end up causing harm to your family and
friends. They have started complaining about it quite often.
(c) One particular friend of yours is always late for college, social functions,
movies etc. and delays everyone.
(d) You realise that you no longer want to pursue your studies in the stream
you have selected.
(A3) (i) Consult the thesaurus and note down synonyms for 'ordinary'.
(a) One synonym of ordinary is banal.
Eg. He finds English poetry very banal.
(b) Similarly find the meaning and make use of the words trite, routine,
cliched and regular in your own sentences.
(ii) Complete the table. One is done for you.
The World around you What we should aim to be
1. Callous. Caring for people, environment, life
2. Violent
3. Greedy
4. Corrupt
(iii) Note down ways in which you can make your life less ordinary in terms
of…
(a) utilisation of time
(b) pursuing goals other than material goals
(c) nurturing relationships
(d) being a better human being
(A4) (i) Place the given areas of questioning from the list in the appropriate
columns.
• future plans
• inspiration
• overcoming hurdles/ struggle
• coach/ mentor/ guide/ teacher
• message for the youngsters
family support
• alternate career choice
• first or maiden award/ achievement /success /setbacks
• turning point in life/ success formula/technique
Section of the interview Aspects to be covered
1. Introduction Welcoming/Greeting, Introduction of
the guest/Occasion
2. Opening questions
3. Main body
4. Concluding questions
5. Summing up Concluding statement, Expressing
gratitude.
• You can add your points.
(ii) ‘Once you begin to learn there is no end to learning’. Write your VIEWS
on this statEment.
(iii) You are a class representative and you are assigned by the principal of
your college, to conduct an interview of a leading personality in a particular
field. You have to conduct the interview with the help of the points in the
table provided above.
(A5) (i) Form groups and discuss the following statements, in the context of the
extract.
‘If he is indeed wise, he does not bid you to enter the house of his wisdom,
but rather leads you to the threshold of your own mind’ Kahlil Gibran
(ii) ‘Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.’
Mahatma Gandhi
Collect some more quotes on education by famous thinkers.
(A6) Project:
Read and prepare a small presentation in about 100 to 150 words on the
ideas of any two philosophers given below.
• Sant Dnyaneshwar
• Guatam Buddha
• Aurobindo Ghosh
• Kahlil Gibran
• Socrates
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